Hanging's too good for us

Posted by Graham Thompson - 12 April 2013 at 4:10pm - Comments
Exhibit A : James Delingpole
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Exhibit D

The winner of the bloggy awards’ best political blog and the winner of the bloggy awards’ best scientific blog are having a fight after school. This is the best show since the Olympics. Popcorn, anyone?

A most uncivil civil war is being waged amongst climate deniers over exactly how rude one ought to be to the opposition (that’s us, BTW). The two online generals in this transatlantic tiff are the denial-o-sphere’s finest elite bloggers, in the UK’s corner, the Telegraph’s own James Delingpole, and in the US, ex-TV weatherman Anthony Watts.

To quickly bring you up to speed, our old energygate friend and one-trick wind farm whinger, Delingpole, wrote an article in the Australian (biggest paper in Oz, Murdoch, obviously), which you will never read, because it’s behind a paywall and you’re not going to pay to see a Delingpole article in an Aussie paper when you can see several hundred identical blogs on the Telegraph for free.

So here’s the crucial sentence:

"The climate alarmist industry has some very tough questions to answer: preferably in the defendant’s dock in a court of law, before a judge wearing a black cap."

Yes, the sentence is… DEATH. For the climate alarmist industry. Which is us, by the way, but also Mike Mann the famous climate scientist, who felt he’d been sentenced a little harshly. Greenpeace, of course, are accustomed to being sentenced harshly.

All good knockabout fun in the ongoing debate over whether physics was invented by the Kremlin (cf. Delingpole et al.).

Or not, as it turns out. Likening people to Nazis (apparently James’ Aussie piece managed to break Godwin’s Law above the line) and calling for their execution isn’t quite the accepted rhetorical tradition in the US that it is in the UK. They have a somewhat anachronistic attachment to what they call ‘civility’, which is similar to the 19th century British concept of ‘good manners’.

So Mike, being an American, failed to appreciate Jim’s journalistic stylings, and was quite cross on the Twitter. And other ‘alarmists’ were cross on his behalf, on both the Twitter and their hopelessly bloggy-less blogs.

So James wrote a blog explaining why he was actually being far too soft on the ‘alarmists’ and no, he wasn’t sorry, and anyway it was all a MET-A-PHOR, you illiterate plebs. 

At this point I feel compelled to quote James again:

"A metaphor, let me explain – I can because I read English at Oxford, dontcha know – is like a simile but stronger. So when, for example, a rugger team boasts in the shower room after a particularly brutal match that it "raped" the opposition, it doesn't literally mean that it had forcible sex with the other side even though that may be – if you're incredibly thick and literalistic and looking for offence – what it sounds like."

Hope you all got that.

This is where it got interesting. Anthony Watts, who runs the Single Most Popular Climate Denial Blog in the World, is also an American, and Anthony made the same mistake that Mike made – assuming that calling someone a Nazi and demanding their execution (not really though! Metaphor!) is ‘uncivil’ or ‘bad manners’. In fact, Anthony went so far as to claim that James’ tone might be harmful to their shared cause*, in the sense that innocent bystanders might read Delingpole’s rhetoric and jump to the entirely unwarranted conclusion that perhaps climate deniers are unstable, paranoid conspiracy theorists. Further, in fact. Anthony actually suggested that James apologise.

Various other climate deniers agreed with Anthony on Twitter. 

So poor old James was getting it from every angle. And what makes this whole affair so spectacularly unfair is that Anthony, an ex-TV weatherman, is the ‘science’ deny-o-blogger, who does all that numbery, techie stuff, whilst James is the ‘political’ deny-o-blogger, who says ‘It’s not my job to sit down and read peer-reviewed papers, because I simply do not have the time; I don’t have the expertise.’

No indeed. James studied English at Oxford, and is the master of subtle rhetorical flourishes and METAPHORS, and the idea that some insufferable yank weatherman is going to show the effrontery, the sheer impudence, to lecture him, James, not on ‘weather stations, the correct siting thereof’ but on rhetoric, is simply insupportable. And the idea that he should apologise? No no no no no. In fact, Anthony should apologise to him.

And James said so. On Twitter. And in the Telegraph. And in the Spectator. In fact, he said he’d rather eat worms. Although that may have been a metaphor.

One could draw many valuable lessons from this episode. Lessons about civility, about Godwin’s Law, about the value of an Oxford education, and about how you can publish the most offensive thing you can think of in the UK’s last broadsheet newspaper, so long as it’s a metaphor.

But this blog is quite long enough already. More popcorn?

 

*Delingpole’s cause, according to recent tweets and blogs, is ‘openness, honesty, truth, liberty and freedom of expression’, and, according to a 2010 blog entitled ‘only the tea party can save us now’ –

‘It's the same one Toby Young is fighting over education; the same one the likes of Rod Liddle, Andrew Gilligan, Nick Cohen and Mark Steyn are fighting over political Islam; the same one Melanie Phillips is fighting over Israel; the same one Douglas Murray is fighting on pretty much everything.’

So that’ll be neoconservatism then.

Lessons in civility...

Why do you use the phrase climate denier.. which as you know is offensive  to many people.

Ie hari monbiot lynas climate sceptics en par with holocaust denial. Very offensive. Especially sad if you consider Prof Lindzen's faith background

And yes. Delingpole blocked me on twitter.

We should immediately institute a Climate Crimes Commission so that the likes of Delingpole and Watts can be brought to justice.  It should be a criminal offence for these sort of people to be able to air their odious views. 

Hello Barry,

We use the term 'denier' in accordance with the
dictionary definition - someone who denies something. The word predates
the holocaust by millennia, and is used in many, many different
contexts, often psychological (in denial), but also political, as in
conservatives calling labour 'deficit deniers'. It's useful because it
distinguishes deniers from skeptics - a skeptic is someone who examines
the evidence for a proposition critically, a denier is someone who
ignores evidence which contradicts their position. As Delingpole has
admitted that he doesn't look at the evidence on climate change, he
could hardly be called a skeptic now could he?

 

Hello Green Dream,

Thanks for your input - do let us know how you get on.

The evidence of climate change is all around us so it's perfectly reasonable to label people who dispute this as "deniers".  In my opinion these people are criminally insane and need to be dealt with to prevent them continuing to spread their evil propaganda.

@Green Dream - given that warmer winters will save more lives than cooler summers, perhaps criminal charges should be reserved for the global warming fanatics.

@tamburlaine

There may be more people alive but unfortunately  the extreme weather will make it impossible to grow enough food to feed everyone.  Things will be pretty grim.   We need to get back to a sustainable way of living, like in pre-industrial days.

I must admit I have not read either the Delingpole or Watts articles but if your description is accurate it seems like civility is expected on the skeptical side, which is more than can be said from yours, Mr Thompson.

Encouraging the more swivel eyed amongst you to set up a climate crimes commission would suggest you have much to learn about civility, not to say commonsense. I am surprised Greenpeace allows you the space to promote your views.

@Green Dream - I'm sure the Chinese and Indian governments will welcome your views on their rush to industrialise.  

 

 

I have to say I am dissapointed. I greatly support greenpeace's argument in this topic and believe that any attempts to deny the existence or severity of problems such as these is ludicrous; but even though these issues may anger some to the point of frenzy, they must be addressed in professional and orderly fashion for any good to come about.

Greenpeace has earnt a name for itself as a well organised and professional organisation in it's area; but like any organisation in it's area, it must have integrity and solidarity if they are to gather any support, positive media or simply just to be taken seriously. The report posted above compromises all of that and opens greenpeace's argument in the matter to much criticism of it's working staff and functionality. It's whiney, overly sarcastic, unrestrained and quite frankly annoys me to read. The oil drilling and tree felling companies already see greenpeace and similar organisations as a handful of whining hippies and this text really doesn't do it much justice.

Writing rediculously about something rediculous just ends up making you sound rediculous. I hope for the sake of greenpeace and the causes it represents that this only represents a small fraction of it's publishings; and hope that in future greenpeace will choose more wisely what it formally posts for both friend and foe to exploit.

 

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@ ASenior

Get with the programme.  Surely you realise that people like Delingpole and Watts are just evil scum, hell bent on destroying the planet.  These people must be stopped at all costs.  We need to abuse and ridicule them at every opportunity to undermine their message.  Heaven help us if people actually start to believe their ridiculous utterings.

The time for being moderate and reasonable is over, we all know the science is settled, these people need to be silenced.  Personally I think the only way it can be achieved is to suspend democracy until we can get things under control.

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