Cracks starting to show - Japan's whaling fleet may leave Southern Ocean early

Posted by Willie - 16 February 2011 at 7:46pm - Comments
A Greenpeace boat tries to prevent whaling ship the Nisshin Maru refuelling in t
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A Greenpeace boat tries to prevent whaling ship the Nisshin Maru from refuelling in the Southern Ocean, 2008

In this day and age, commercial whaling is out-of-date and should be out-of-the-question. Sadly it isn’t, but maybe the news that the Japanese whaling fleet might be cutting short its stay in the Southern ocean is cause for some optimism. It’s an odd state of affairs we find ourselves in, and not one that makes a whole lot of sense when you start to think about it. There is a global ban on commercial whaling. Some whale species are listed as endangered. We have bans on the international trade of endangered species. Many areas of our seas are recognised internationally as whale sanctuaries.

Yet we can have endangered species hunted in sanctuaries and their meat sold on the market in Japan.

It makes a mockery of international agreements and conservation efforts, and it sucks up a huge amount of resources. Internationally, the annual fight and brouhaha over commercial whaling successfully stops any meaningful progress on the conservation of other whales, dolphins and porpoises. And in Japan itself, vast amounts of taxpayers money are spent, directly and indirectly, to defend and support a whaling programme that its tax-paying population neither need nor want.

Increasingly however, the cracks are starting to show. Last year the Japanese whaling fleet set sail late, and with less ships. They also had less capacity because they could no longer depend on a supply ship to take whale meat home. Back then, we predicted that this was likely to mean coming home earlier too. It’s part of an ongoing pattern of an industry in decline.

Japan's whale meat mountain is at its highest level. Almost 6,000 tonnes (which might be better visualised as about 1,000 minke whales) is sitting unwanted in storage. It shows the nonsense of assuming there's a thriving demand for whale meat, especially by those in Iceland who think there’s a future in exporting some endangered fin whale meat there on a regular basis.

At-sea confrontations, global public outrage, political embarrassment, media speculation on vote-buying, and Greenpeace’s own Tokyo Two’s domestic spotlight on an unscrupulous industry have undoubtedly taken their toll.

But it’s difficult to read just now, as the BBC’s Richard Black sums up well here, not least because the Japanese government isn’t always very open or transparent about its whaling programme. It could well be that the biggest and most painful driver at the moment is financial, with a squeeze on the Japanese economy making the defence of the indefensible simply not worth the fight anymore.

The pattern is not dissimilar in the other whaling nations, Iceland and Norway, where the bravado and spin supporting the industry belies the truth of an industry - and a much-defended ‘tradition’ - in its death throes. But, like a monster in a B-movie, we must be careful not to assume the thing is dead until it really is, and changing things in Japan is the best way to make sure we deliver that much-needed silver bullet.

Good thing but these latest changes in the whaling fleets plans don't have anything to do with Greenpeace. Stop blinding people with his propaganda pls. It makes me think of WW II.

This has Nothing to do with Greenpeace but everything to do with Sea Shepherd who actually doing something to stop whaling. Shame on you for refusing to help Sea Shepherd but now trying to take credit for this.

Careful Kevin, you nearly invoked Godwin's Law.

Jamie,

This is not a long discussion. I can relate to other cultures where people are kept 'dumb' because of propaganda too but this is outside the question. You know what I mean and WWII is the most known example.

Talk is cheap.  Greenpeace was asked to help and they did nothing.  And that is fine.  But, then to post a picture of Greenpeace doing something in 2008 seems ridiculous. Fight the good fight.  When WWII was brought up, the first point that came to mind was the pre-WWII Lend-Lease deal from this side of the pond to your side. Maybe Greenpeace, if unwilling to take an active part, should find a way to be supportive.

Ha ha ha, It's really a SS victory?, what a crap!, they was there in the final stage of the full campaign, let face it, Paul Watson was going to the IWC for to be sit down drinking coffe the whole week and nothing else, they claim this so called victory?, if the fleet even returned to japan is not dead untill the japanese want it, so let stop the bullshit and let do something as GP does in Japan... and don't try to fight the last round and them claim victory!

Greenpeace has a lot of merit in having helped bring the demise of whaling over the last few decades. But not acknowledging Sea Shepherd´s ENORMOUS role in accelerating that by keeping up the confrontations in Antarctica is just petty, and a falied attempt to cover up for GP biggest estrategic mistake - taking your ships off Antarctica and pretending it was because of the 'Tokyo Two' case. It reminds me of a huge chunk of Greenpeace fellas trying to support the 'deal' with Japan at the last IWC meeting then putting out a press release celebrating its failure. A bit more honesty in the propaganda would go a long way to do justice to GP´s actual merits and achievements and to the great pioneers who, despite the organization having been recently hijacked by bureaucrats and climate-change fanatics who just don´t care about saving wildlife directly, have done A LOT for this planet and some continue to.

wow, I think its great you stopped them.....result!

I was waiting for your comment on this news with interest. Whaling has been suspended this season because Sea Shepherd have had a boat sitting off the stern of the Nisshin Maru, no other reason. The strategy of making the hunt economically unviable for the Japanese by confronting them in the Southern Ocean has a clear and undeniable logic to it.

It makes me sad that you can't manage to congratulate a fellow environmental organisation on their success. An end to whaling is more important than your dispute with Sea Shepherd over tactics, if that is of course the real reason you won't send ships south. Co-operation with Sea Shepherd could have prevented any whales being killed at all this season.

Is there an edict that states Greenpeace staff are not to acknowledge Sea Shepherd's existence? You're attitude is just plain weird and makes many of us view you in a deeply unsympathetic light, people who should be your core supporters. Rethink your communications and rethink your strategy. Origami whales and email hasn't helped; direct action has.

 enough already everybody!! its taken a lot of people and organisations and even some governments at some points,  a long time to get us this far and we aren't there yet. It has taken brave work in the Southern Ocean, in Japan and at the IWC, some of it by individuals that never have their names in the media, out of sight of TV cameras, not posted on the websites and done without hoohaa. It hasn't been one direct action by one organisation, its been cumulative and some of the activities have been small but significant.  Its not over til its over, so lets get back to work, doing whatever we do well in our own ways and be grateful that we have diversity amongst our efforts, it keeps the whaling industry off balance.....and stop judging each other. 

This is good news.
I thank Greenpeace for being there for many years, decades even, and knowing that a war like this needs many strategies. If it wasn't for them probably there would be no whales to protect now.
I am also glad that in the last couple of years SShepard has gone to the southern ocean, because the pressure needs to be kept everywhere.
As someone says above, this is a victory (partial) of many people and organizations and nobody should be saying "We did it", like some are...
Let's hope they (japan) keep out of the southern ocean for good.

Last thing I need is for Greenpeace employees, present or former, to come here bin a public comment space to determine what one should or should not say. Or is this a praise-only space designed by the Marketing Department to enhance only positive comments about the orgabnization to help in fundraising?

Give my three decades of activism outside the 'developed world' some chance of saying what I think without need of listening to these patrozining, holier-than-thou instructions to 'go back to work'.

Shame on you for not acknowledging Sea Shepherd's achievement in the Southern Ocean.

Why do you people keep saying it was all Sea Shepherd and that Greenpeace are not acknowledging them at all?

"At-sea confrontations, global public outrage, political embarrassment, media speculation on vote-buying, and Greenpeace’s own Tokyo Two’s domestic spotlight on an unscrupulous industry have undoubtedly taken their toll."

First part right there, and yes obviously they have made an impact, but the long-term problem is not going to go away in Japan or any other country if that is the only route taken.

If we don't fight it legally and show publically what is happening, i.e. the Tokyo Two case and the subsequent apologies from Government; then eventually the direct actions taken will be hampered by military or police intervention.

The wikileaks document pertaining to whaling and the Sea Shepherds talks about the Japanese government bargaining with the US, though incredibly badly and using inaccurate facts, to lower the whaling targets if the US intervenes against this direct action.

How about calling on the Sea Shepherds to help with the legal and public fight instead of just direct action?

Of course Greenpeace agree with what they are doing, in fact were the first group doing this type of work - but there are more than one ways of cracking a nut.

I think what has been said is all very prevalent. My point initially and still is today, that GP and SSCS should work together. And if it is SSCS putting the ships in the water and GP making the political "attacks" then we have a two pronged solution. The US provided the destroyers, the British did the fighting. Not that this is an across the "pond" issue, it is a division of putting forward what needed to be put forward. How much more power can we put on governments to end whaling if we could hit them with everything we had? Russia was an ally during WWII. Does not mean we had to like everything they did, but it brought us to a common goal.

Like the song goes, "Why can't we be friends....."

GP may not like Paul Watson and his tactics, but there is no argument about how many whales are alive today, because of his successes this year. Isn't that what WE are all fighting for? The Japanese are in a serious financial situation based on his success. GP working politically could deliver the death blow. Let's put the petty bickering aside and make this happen.

People's front of Judea, or is that Judean peoples front.

Strange really; the original article is about Whales, most of the comments seem to be about the organisations. Makes you wonder what people really care about?

John

P.S I blame WWF, I mean they don't even have ships so clearly they're useless to the cause. Or the WDCS, WSPA, Operation Whale or ........

the whole article above is just salespeak...atraight out of Orwels 1984, and outlines all the points why Greenpeace should get the lions share of the Kudos and why  that other  "org  who ahall not be named" organisation , the Lord Voldermort...sorry...Sea Shepherd Conservation society who actually did ALL the work to take out the Japanese whaling fleet this year. Without sea shepherd, do you really think that the Nishin Maru would be leaving early for Tokyo? Do you really? What a shame grenpeace are so busy trying to delude its memebers that they have a handle on the whaling issue when all they are doing is flying business class around the world to drink cofee and sit in board rooms whilst they make littel paper origami whales, achieving aprox nothing. Grow up Greenpeace, give credit where credit is due and start making plans to send down some ships next year ( yes the Japanese will return) so make sure you are there!!!

 

 

@imforthewhales Thanks for the insightful, unbiased comment. " What a shame grenpeace are so busy trying to delude its memebers that they have a handle on the whaling issue when all they are doing is flying business class around the world to drink cofee and sit in board rooms whilst they make littel paper origami whales, achieving aprox nothing" This blog post was a really informative piece of what is happening in whaling, what has been acheived and what can be done for the future, mentioning one Greenpeace action and at no point claiming responsibility for this years retreat. Did you read it? It's great news and something I think we can all be happy about, and this is a great post that people without much idea of the whaling situation could read to be introduced to the situation.

@ Matt Harris,

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but this  blog post was not informative at all and did not cover what is happenning in whaling or what has been achieved. Did you read it? Did you really think it was great? How can you clain to be informing people when you have left out all of the facts?

You did get one part right, and that is the cracks are starting to show. What you failed to fully explain to your readers who may be " people without much idea of the whaling situation" is that the cracks are begginning to show, and getting bigger,  because of Sea Sheperd intervention in the Southern Ocean the past 7 years. The big crack that looked something like a fault line off California appeared this month, and was due to Sea Shepherds big plan. By spending money on new ships ( Bob barker and Gojira), preparing them and sending them down to Antarctica to tackle the whalers head on, with enough crew, fuel and supplies to get the job done...they have acheived what years of diplomacy have failed to deliver.

By the time SSCS had the Nishin Maru in their sights it was game over for Japan. we knew it and they knew it. They  decided it was better to return home to Tokyo with an 80 per cent reduction of their whale quota rather than wander around Antartica burning fuel without any prospects of catching whales.

 Unfortunatly, your article failed to mention this to your readers who are, as you out it,  " without much idea of the whaling situation."  Perhaps you could have enlightened them beyond 'not having much of an idea' and given them the opprtunity to have a pretty good idea about the whaling situation. 

I think it is interesting that you claim a small victory " Back then, we predicted that this was likely to mean coming home earlier too. It’s part of an ongoing pattern of an industry in decline."

 This little claim serves two purposes.

Firstly, it gives Greenpeace a bit of kudos for being so on the ball.

The second reason is more sinister and that is it takes away from the enormous victory that  SSCS has just achieved in the Southern Ocean.

 Your blog  failed to mention that the whaling fleet came home 6 weeks early, which is probably a long way shy of your  "predictions".

You also failed to mention 'why".

I can tell you It was not due to the Tokyo Two, it was not because that whale meat is tainted with toxic chemicals, it was not because of your origami whales landing on Obamas desk, and it most certainly wasnt because of Obama. It was not due to Greenpeace "raising awareness"or their ships getting in the way of the whalers either...as we all know, Greenpeace dont even send ships down there any more. Lets face it, Taiwan and Hong Kong are much less dangerous ports of call for the Greenpeace partry ships. for one thing, its not so cold there and they serve better cocktails too.

The reason why the Japanese fleet came home 6 weeks early was due to the fact that the "Bob Barker", which is a ship donated by Bob to SSCS ( for the newbies) actually  blocked the Nishin Maru ( factory ship) from processing whales. They came home 6 weeks early because the Nishin Maru was unable to shake the SSCS off their tail, even though they tried to run all the way to South America. Not being able to process whales meant it was game over for Japan and they had no choice but to return to Tokyo. Even as we speak, SSCS are still on their tail as they leave the whale sanctuary.

Did greenpeace predict this too as they were gazing at their magic crystal ball?

Yes we can all be happy about the whalers retreat, ( even though you predicted it) but to be fair, and in order to inform and educate your new readers who dont have much idea about whaling, perhaps you can start by filling in the obvious blanks so that they come away with a clearer picture about what is really going on with Japanese whaling and why the cracks are getting bigger.

You might also try to explain to them why you need more money for new ships that dont even bother heading to Antarctica anymore, why you post pictures of Greenpeace in Antarctica ( circa 2008) ... something we have seen for years, and why people should consider donating to Greenpeace when their own blogs leave out most of the facts about what is really happenning with whaling and who is getting the big successes that may well shut whaling in Antarctica for good.

I realise that atm you regard Paul Watson as persona non grata. Hopefully, the Greenpeace attitude whill change come December when Japan will once again attempt to head down to Antartica. For the sake of the whales, we all hope that you will be down there too.

When the time comes will  you be a big enough organisation to put past differences aside and help put an end to Japanese whaling in Antarctica? Will you send your ships down to take on the might of the Japanese empire ...for the whales sake? Will you return Greenpeace to the great organisation it once was when it took action in the field, or will you stick with the cheaper and easier origami whale approach and sit back counting the cash as your uninformed readers with not much idea reach for the credit card?

 

@imforthewhales

First off, the article is pretty informative if someone had visited this website having known nothing about whaling at all. Just because it isn't about SS doesn't mean a thing.

Secondly, I am not GP, I just support the work. I am not anti-SS, I also support their work. But please realise that as I said earlier you have to work on all the different aspects of the situation or nothing will change.

Read the wikileaks document about SS, and Paul Watson's reaction on the SS website to see how much Japan are pushing to have naval intervention in SS work. Despite the fact it is legally and morally in the right, the ships may be attacked in the near future.

Stop talking about money and cocktails, it's childish and untrue, unless you have anything to back these claims up?

I didn't mention Obama because he has been useless in this situation.

The Japanese fleet sank an SS ship at the cost of $1 million, a massiev tragedy. Also alot of money that could have been spent on an international legal action against the whaling fleet to stop this forever.

Don't take a quote out of context either, "predicted" does not imply a magic ball or that SS didn't do amazing things.

Basically, SS take one angle, GP take another. Stop taking pot shots when we are doing good things in a different way. Could you agree on that?

 

@ Matt,

 

if I was reading this for the first time without knowing anything about whaling, I would read the first few paragraphs and agree with what you said. I am sure anyone, from either side of the multi-layered fence that is anti whaling, woud agree with the premise that whaling has no place in the 21st century etc etc.

We are, after all, fighting to see commercial whaling end.

Where the article goes into sales speak and GP tainted spin, however is when it starts talking about the japanese fleet returning home early, particularly the line "Back then, we predicted that this was likely to mean coming home earlier too. It’s part of an ongoing pattern of an industry in decline."

In other words, there is a clear implication that the Japanese were coming home early because they no longer had a suply ship. Of course they did not just come home early but they came home 6 weeks early...around hlaf way through their usual season and this is even after leaving two weeks late.  This line is nothing more than a veiled swipe at SSCS and calling them innefective & irrelevant ( you talk about being childish but you support this rather childish passive agressive sentence published by Greenpeace). The fact is that SSCS blocked the NM, they could not shake their tail and were forced to call and end to commercial whaling 2011.

The article then goes on to mention five things that are destroying the japanese whale meat industry. "At-sea confrontations, global public outrage, political embarrassment, media speculation on vote-buying, and Greenpeace’s own Tokyo Two’s domestic spotlight on an unscrupulous industry have undoubtedly taken their toll"

You mention 'at sea confrontations', which could mean grenpeace actions 3 or 4 years ago, but no mention of SSCS at all and their overwhelming successes shutting down the whaling fleet and the obvious political embarressment that this is bringing. Whilst it is true that all of the above are reasons for the "cracks" showing, none of them are responsible for the whaling fleet returning home 6 weeks early and with 80 per cent of their holds empty of dead whale meat.

 One would think that if a true desire was held by Greenpeace to inform and educate the casual reader then this would be a rather important piece of information to display if the true intention of the author was to inform and educate. You claim it doesnt matter if SSCS are mentioned or not. I claim that it does, not just for the readers but also your supporters who must see this as a rather petty ommision. it appears too that a fair few of your blog respondants agree with me.

As far as attacks on SSCS ships goes by the whalers, there is nothing new there. The attack on the Ady Gil being the obvious example. I'm sure that the whalers  will continue to do what they can stop SSCS,  using whatever means they have available. I thik you can safely discount the Japanese navy from attending though. This would create an international incident which Japan neither needs nor wants. It is also illegal to conduct military operations in the Antarctic under the terms of the Antarctic treaty. If there were any miltarty personel sent then they could only be used IF  SSCS attempted to board a Japanese ship.

 "The Japanese fleet sank an SS ship at the cost of $1 million, a massiev tragedy. Also alot of money that could have been spent on an international legal action against the whaling fleet to stop this forever."

The Japanese sank the ship belonging to Ady Gil at a cost to him of 1 million. It was not a tragedy because nobody was killed. It was just a small ship made of wood and carbon fibre that got cut in half. The ship did not belong to SSCS and it was under the command of Pete Bethune, not Paul Watson. Pete Bethune went to court in Japan and created a media hoopla at a cost of a half million to SSCS. End result...not much ( it certainly did not brig the fleet home) but Pete got his freedom. As far as any future international legal action goes, that will be covered by the governments of Australia and New Zealand when they take Japan to the International courts over whaling. Not SSCS and not Greenpeace. But that court case is still years way from happenning and may never happen if SSCS manage to stop the Nishin Maru again come December and sink the whaling operations for good.   

 "Basically, SS take one angle, GP take another. Stop taking pot shots when we are doing good things in a different way. Could you agree on that?"

I agree that you are doing good things in a different way, just not enough good things i the most effective way. I also question your " value for money ".  Regardless, please give credit where credit is due for the truly big results instead of pretending they never happenned. Just because people do not know anything about whaling does not mean that they should be given a blog that does not present the big picture and one which is full of ommissions by design.

To present such a blog is a rather sad commentary by Greenpeace on what it must feel is the general intelligence level of its readers. I think that Greenpeace needs to be careful that it is not seen to be turning into the type of corporate monster that they themselves have been fighting against for the past thirty years or so.

I'm sure we can all agree on that?

 

 

 

 

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@imforthewhales

Again, you are misinterpreting.

For the second time, I did not write that article so stop using "you". It's showing you are attacking something you dislike without clear reason.

How is this full paragraph, taken in it's full context a "veiled swipe at SSCS and calling them innefective & irrelevant" -

"Increasingly however, the cracks are starting to show. Last year the Japanese whaling fleet set sail late, and with less ships. They also had less capacity because they could no longer depend on a supply ship to take whale meat home. Back then, we predicted that this was likely to mean coming home earlier too. It’s part of an ongoing pattern of an industry in decline."

Remember the fleet hadn't been recalled when this was published and that a reduced cargo would obviously imply coming home earlier. Read the linked BBC article too for all the different reasons the fleet may have been recalled. You sound incredibly paranoid, reading very far into quite a simple statement.

You entire argument about the sinking is just blank. So $1.5 million was lost. At your own admission "Pete Bethune went to court in Japan and created a media hoopla at a cost of a half million to SSCS. End result...not much" - Great use of donations there . Money that could been been used more effectively in a court case, similar to the one GP are taking against the UK government on offshore drilling.

Australia and NZ, always been very big supporters of GP and I believe I am right in saying the publicity and campaigning we have consistently in those countries has playted a large part in this legal action. So what we are doing does work!

You are obviously incredibly angry this article was not all high praise for SSCS. Sorry, personally I think what they did was amazing and played a huge part in the fleet coming home early this year and also the quota's not being met in recent years.

For the second time now, don't talk about money, sales speech and mock GP supporters intelligence and saying we are a "corporate monster". This is the childish part of your comments and it continues.

If you don't think what GP are doing has raised massive public knowledge, created legal cases and international criticism and turned the Japanese public against whaling then say it.

If you just think that Sea Shepherd's method of stopping whaling is better, fine. But don't expect it to stop in the long term without Greenpeace's work, and don't shout at an informative, well-intentioned blog because you have a personal vendetta.

I joined Greenpeace early in its life; not for the anti-nuclear stance, but the anti-whaling stance when the Rainbow Warrior wore the emblem of the Kwakiutl indian nation and stood against the world's whaling fleets, particularly Japan. I am delighted that the Japanese fleet has left the Southern Ocean, but saddened that Greenpeace did nothing to assist Sea Shepherd make this happen or even acknowledge Sea Shepherd's role. Even when Greenpeace had a ship in the whale sanctuary in previous years they refused to assist Sea Shepherd to the extent that they would not communicate with the Steve Irwin in relation to the position of the whaling fleet. It's why, in my old age, I divested myself of a lengthy Greenpeace membership and joined Sea Shepherd. And as for contributing to a new Rainbow Warrior - to what purpose, take the Greenpeace heirarchy around the world to fly the Greenpeace flag? Nero allegedly fiddled while Rome burned and a simple 'We're watching you' presence doesn't frighten anyone

Don't get me wrong, I still think that Greenpeace does good work in some areas, but it has spread its wings far and become mostly a mouth similar to WWF rather than the direct action organisation it once was. Yes, tell the Japanese what is happening in their world and what their government is doing with their yen, but don't leave it at that. And don't pretend that Sea Shepherd is some sort of rebel organisation beneath Greenpeace's contempt or that Paul Watson wasn't a founder member of Greenpeace. Some of us have memories longer than some of your ages and rewriting history has been tried before and it doesn't wash!

Get out of the office folks, the world still needs organisations like Sea Shepherd that are not frightened of their reputation, upsetting the opposition or health and safety issues.

Hi well reading through this blog it's very sad, you all are tryimg to be goood but arguing about nothing. Tne point is how manny people vare about the planet, thats all of us right? Love ya, atek care, do your best xx

I think if it wasn't for Greenpeace WWF, WSPA, Save The Bears, (my favourites), oh and Save our turtles please?? where would we be?
The only way to change opinion is to have one right, if enough people think something it can and will happen. we can still protect our planet, don't sell lthe forrests had just proven that right?

@ Matt,

No I  am not misinterpresting ...anyone who knows advertising when they see it could point out the same things that I have and the questions you raised in your final post  were already covered by me in my last post.

I am not 'incredibly angry' about this blog.. what I am angry about , Matt, is that Greenpeace has quite a lot of money given to them by hard working folks and GP own some very nice ocean going ships. If they had bothered going to the Southern Ocean this year, instead of heading towards Taiwn, Hong Kong and Boston ( !) perhaps even tracking the Nishin Maru from Japan, then that simple action alone might have saved those 170 whales that were killed this year by Japan.

Yes Greenpeace could have saved those whales but they chose not to. That makes me mad Matt, not the blog.

If Greenpeace had done that one thing, made that one gesture towards the whales, then there may have been zero whales lost, because the only time the whalers can catch whales is when SSCS cant find them. Court cases would not have saved those whales, but the Rainbow Warrior on the Nishin Marus back all th way from Tokyo would have.

You guys really need to think seriously about that and start making plans to help out in December and really put the boot into Japan when they try again to go catch some more whales.

its obvious that you in love with expensive court cases but there is nothing to stop Greenpeace from doing Tokyo Two as well as tracking the NM..you have enough money and enough people and enough ships to do both.

Matt, you can talk about being childish all you want, but I speak the truth. I loved the post above by Fionn. She summed up the general feeling out there very well. Fionn & a lot of people, not just me, are very dissapointed in Greenpeace right at the moment on this whaling issue. People such as yourself, who are not taking any of this in and take the defensive all the time  need to wake up from your cozy bubble and realise that.

Thank you Fionn for your thoughtful post.

Adios, good luck. and I hope to see Greenpeace down there next year,

 

 

 

 

 

Quite incredible how Greenpeace can try to take credit for this...they must need money badly for the Rainbow Warrior III, how this sort of spending is justified while whales die in the Antarctic I can't comprehend.  http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/rainbow-warrior/

Sea Shepherd Conservation Society are criticised and ridiculed by media and orgs such as yours but they get things done, perhaps time to get back to your roots, stop paying your CEOs so much and get some real campaigns together.

in the end we should just be happy about the fact the whaling in the southern ocean could be curbed for now, no matter for which reason ... BUT reading this greenpeace article really makes me angry. and i am assuaged to see that there are many people sharing my view. there is nothing more to add here, all is said. but i would like to repeat: why can't you, greenpeace, acknowledge it was the persistant fight of sea shepherd responsible for the success this time? and why did you refuse to support your fellow organization? nobody understands this!!! and now adorning with borrowed plumes, this is disgusting! i do acknowledge and always admired your actions of the last decades, but currently i start doubting about you. you are losing credit. sadly.

The Japanese cited Sea Shepherd as the reason they suspended this years whale hunt in Antartica. It's a pity that Greenpeace is not big enough to give credit to Sea Shepherd for all the hard work, courage and detrmination they have shown over the past seven years.
Each year they have returned to the Southern Ocean with better equipment and as a supporter of Sea Shepherd it is easy to see that my money is being spent wisely and effectively. Greenpeace on the other hand has actively supported the Japanese cause by echoing their claim that Sea Shepherd is a violent organisation whose members throw acid at people.
This is a shameful thing to say and it absolutely beggars belief that Greenpeace is now trying (not very succesfully from what I've read here) to take the credit for the fantastic job that Sea Shepherd have done.
I used to be a member of Greenpeace when it first started but became disillusioned and left when I realsised that the management of Greenpeace was more interested in establishing a profitable business than working to protect the environment. If I needed any proof that Greenpeace sees other environmental groups as a threat and competitor rather than like minded people they should be co-operating with, this is it!

I have always found whaling to be cruel and barbaric and am ashamed to admit that this is my first time on the GP website. It took me ages to read all the comments and the wittering and nit picking. I've watched documentaries and from my armchair cheered GP and SSCS and I don't care who does what or who claims what or who gets credit for what. Please people grow up. It's like listening to children in the playground - "please miss he didn't do it, I did". The more organisations out there, be it in meetings or on the seas, fighting the fight the better. As long as whaling is stopped for good who cares how.

The most important thing is that whales have been saved. How and who by matters not. Having the people who are concerned about whaling and indeed all environmental matters squabbling divides our ability to get at the people we should be fighting.

I donate monthly to Sea Shepherd because I admire them and lost faith in Greenpeace. I've come on to the Greenpeace website to see what they are saying about the whaling issue. Surely now it is a time for Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd to call a truce and work together.

Sea shepherd and Greenpeace are never going to be friends, that I understand. But just as I dislike Paul Watson having a go at Greenpeace I kind of understand when I see reports like this. Take a look at the BBC report:

 

"Japan has brought an early end to its whale hunting season in the Antarctic.

American anti-whale activists, the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, has been chasing the Japanese fleet's mother ship.

The government says there are safety concerns due to the group's repeated harassment. Commercial whaling was banned in 1986 but Japan uses a regulation permitting hunting for scientific research.

The BBC's Roland Buerk said the rights and wrongs of whaling are not debated publicly in Japan."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12502020

 

@Rob: This is just like a bitter divorce. If the two sides would just focus on the kids and stop looking at their own personal goals, the difference would be substantial.

@Stephen. Well said

Will Greenpeace be there?

 

Meeting at Tsukiji Market / Raising Awareness of Whale Eating Culture
A group of seafood wholesalers in Tsukiji Market in Chuo Ward, Tokyo, will host a meeting Saturday to raise awareness among themselves and the public about the the nation's whaling history and its whale-eating culture.

Ginrin-kai, an incorporated nonprofit organization, organized the event in cooperation with the town government of Taijicho, Wakayama Prefecture, Japan's main whaling port.

The meeting, which will take place at Tsukiji Market, comes after the government recently canceled this season's research whaling due to antiwhaling activities of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.

Applications are being accepted from the public to participate in the event.

"We hope the Tsukiji meeting will give [participants] an opportunity to think about Japan's traditional culture of whale hunting and eating and will help disseminate information about our fish-eating culture," a Ginrin-kai member said.

Taijicho, depicted in the 2009 U.S. documentary film "The Cove" as a center of dolphin and whale hunting, has attracted the attention of antiwhaling groups and been a target of their activities.

In Saturday's meeting, titled "Taiji Kujira Monogatari"(Taiji's whale story), a staff member of the Taiji Whale Museum plans to describe the current situation of the town, where whale hunting is closely connected with the local culture and local people's lives.

He will also explain the whaling history of the town, which is believed to be the birthplace of an ancient Japanese style of whale hunting.

People in charge of wholesale firms in Tsukiji Market and some related to research whaling will talk about whale biology. Katsuhiko Ueda, a Fisheries Agency official who has promoted the eating of fish, will speak about whale dishes.

Tsukiji Market handled about 220,000 kilograms of whale meat in 2010 compared with about about 1.8 million kilograms in 1980, the year before commercial whaling was banned.

The meeting will be held at the metropolitan hall in the market and will begin at 1:30 p.m. Admission is free but applications must be submitted in advance. The first 150 applicants will be accepted.

Applications with name and contact information should be faxed to Ginrin-kai at (03) 3541-7194.

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110226003719.htm

 

Sea Shepherd are one of the main reasons the Japanese fleet left early this year.

Why are you taking all the credit you don't do anything apart from take donations then claim to be helping end this

 

 

How Greenpeace Cashes In on the Suffering and Death of the Great Whales

 

 

http://www.counterpunch.org/watson02082008.html

 

 

Greenpeace, I'm a supporter but have the decency to answer the criticisms regarding taking credit for what Sea Shepherd has achieved.

why is everyone relating it to WW2?

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