Princes responds to your emails but not your demands for sustainable tuna

Posted by jossg - 20 January 2011 at 7:12pm - Comments
Turtle and FAD in East Pacific Ocean
All rights reserved. Credit: Alex Hofford / Greenpeace

Update, 9 March 2011: both Princes and Asda have committed to removing tuna caught using fish aggregating devices in combination with purse seine nets from their supply chains by 2014. Read more >>

Princes sent out a message to almost 18,000 of you who emailed the company asking them to stop using fishing methods that kill sharks, turtles, dolphins and other fish in order to fill their cans with tuna.

I've taken the letter apart to explain what their response really means. The bottom line is they're still bottom of the tuna league.

If Princes did have "a serious and genuine commitment to improving sustainability", they'd offer more than just this long response. They'd follow other tinned tuna companies and clean up their practises.

Here Princes admits that bycatch is a problem for the environment. If they knew this you have to wonder how they had the gall to label their tuna tins with a label saying, "Princes is fully committed to fishing methods which protect the marine environment and marine life."

That aside - and since they've now pledged to ditch their false labels after pressure from many of you - let's concentrate on how they're trying to muddy the waters.

They've tried to imply bycatch is a problem that arises from "all fishing methods." In reality some fishing methods are a lot worse than others. When it comes to fishing for the tuna that goes in your tins, purse seining with fads - the method that is used for the majority of Princes' tinned tuna - is the worst of them all for the wider marine environment. In contrast the fishing methods used by some of Princes competitors - like Marks & Spencer, Sainsbury's and Waitrose - are much more environmentally friendly and massively reduce the extent of sharks, other fish, turtles and baby tuna that get caught 'accidentally'.

Absolutely there needs to be a 'joined-up approach' to clean up the global tuna industry. That's why we're campaigning for the establishment of marine reserves, regulation that ensures fish are only taken from stocks that are in good shape, and to elimination of the most environmentally destructive fishing methods like purse seining with Fads.

But 'joined up' should not be an excuse for inaction. Given that more Princes tinned tuna is sold than any other brand in the UK, Princes should be leading not trying to hold back the herd. Princes offer only weak statements on marine reserves, they take from stocks that are overfished (and even stock species that the IUCN says are at risk of extinction like bigeye tuna) and their fishermen catch almost all their tuna using the most environmentally destructive fishing method available to them.

A large majority of the world's tinned tuna is sold by ISSF members. Obviously bringing together that much of the world's tinned tuna trade under one umbrella has huge potential for good. And the ISSF (which focuses on tuna, despite the broader remit suggested by its title) has been making some positive noises. They have said some encouraging things in particular about some threatened tuna stocks. The ISSF is also funding some much-needed scientific research, which everyone welcomes.

But the sad truth is that this in itself doesn't amount to much. Even the best scientific research should not be used simply as a delay tactic to dealing with the obvious problems that we already know about. Above all, what ISSF is not tackling yet is the problem of Fad use leading to shameful amount of bycatch. And the ISSF has publicly admitted that purse seine fishing on Fads has the greatest bycatch of any method commonly used in the tinned tuna industry.

The ISSF's raison d'etre should be cleaning up the industry, not encouraging the status quo. In a meeting with the ISSF last year, they told us that they were "not an organisation that is out to radically change the industry" but that they "feel it's important to show progress". So it seems pretty clear then that the ISSF is pretty preoccupied with generating good PR.

Oh dear, Princes still don't seem to understand the purpose of our campaign. We are campaigning against the fishing method of purse seining with Fads because it leads to a high bycatch of sharks, juvenile tuna, turtles, rays and other marine wildlife. As well as this, we need to see the establishment of marine reserves to help fish stocks and ocean ecosystems recover from high levels of exploitation.

Pole and line fishing - which itself must be conducted at sustainable levels - is an alternative way of catching tuna in a less destructive way, but so is purse seining without Fads, which can also reduce levels of bycatch by up to 90 per cent.

Princes may source some tuna caught using pole and line. However, it is not separated out, not clearly labelled, and Princes certainly don't offer a pole and line range. Lets be clear: pole and line tuna fishing leads to far lower level of bycatch than purse seining with Fads; and purse seining without Fads is far better than purse seining with Fads. So in the hierarchy of sustainability, Princes choose to mainly source from the very worst option. As we've said before, we're not against purse-seining per se.

Of course, pole and line fishing - where it is pursued as an alternative means of catching tuna - must be kept within sustainable limits. But it is plainly wrong of Princes to try to equate catching bait fish with the mass capture of endangered species, or to suggest that pole and line fishing is somehow on a par with purse seining with Fads.

Right now, pole and line caught skipjack tuna products like those found in Sainsbury's, Waitrose and M&S - are much more environmentally friendly than Princes products.

If you compare this statement on marine reserves to the sort of support for them shown by other companies like ASDA, Sainsbury's, M&S and the Co-operative, it will be as obvious to you as it is to us that Princes are offering only a weak, mealy-mouthed position. Given that Princes sell more tinned tuna in the UK than any other company, it's time they sounded like a true market leader.

Clearly this is a good move but it's too little, too slowly. Other companies like Sainsbury's are 100 per cent pole and line, and Tesco are seeking to catch up too. It's time Princes followed suit not only by investing in pole and line, but through the introduction of Fad-free purse seining.

Well this is certainly an improvement on labelling that is downright misleading - which was  Princes' practice until very recently. Again Princes are trailing behind their rivals. Princes should be labelling by species, origin and catch method of their tuna like many of their competitors already do. This way consumers can have the choice to buy a more environmentally friendly product. Right now, all they can do is avoid Princes and buy from more responsible companies.

Obviously, industry support for the establishment of no-take marine reserves is a good thing - even if the support is small scale. But this move makes you wonder why Princes overall position on marine reserves is so weak.

In South Africa, none of our tinned tuna labels (a) what species, (b) where caught or (c) how caught. Therefore I don't purchase tuna at all. In a restaurant, never has anyone been able to answer where and how (at times even what species) the tuna on sale was caught. So I don't eat it. I've not eaten tuna in years. If I knew I could eat skipjack tuna pole and line caught I would indulge, albeit seldom as I still believe this sustainability issue a difficult one to swallow due to such high demand. Great article this, I hope Princes do better and improve - it's really through competition that they're forced to, as more environmentally aware UK consumers are pushing for this, largely in part due to great documentaries aired on UK telly, such as 'The End of the Line' and others (you had to pay to view 'The End of the Line' here in cinemas so it was a tiny, niche market that saw it).

We need to stop eating tuna full stop. At least for a few years to let fish stocks recover. I boycott tuna. I hope other people will begin to also. If we don't make an effort to reduce overfishing now, some of these tuna species could be extinct within the next 5 years.

Thank you for posting your response to the Princes letter on your website. As one of the 18,000 who received this reply from Princes, it seemed very reasonable when I first read it. Since most of us are not experts on the fishing industry, we need you, Greenpeace Team, to read between the lines for us and inform of us companies like Princes true position.

Completely agree with Thyone on this one!

Surly, John west tuna is also unsustainable because on "Hugh's fish fight" the ship which Tesco used was owned by John west. And the workers on that ship admitted that bycatch is a big problem.

To N/A - John West are almost equally as bad as Princes; this is explained on the Greenpeace league tabel on this very website!! If you click on the tims of Tuna indiviually; it will explain how Greenpeace graded each company/supermarket! :-)

if you want to protect whales in antarctica why is there no ship down there

Well, off-topic as it is jonas, we are campaigning to end commercial whaling, just not in the Southern Ocean at present. Instead, the focus of our work is in Japan, the latest results of which you can read about.

Great article! I have to say I was initially thrown by the Princes response. I do accept that the problem is complex and that there is no silver bullet. However, Princes in my opinion are playing on the complexity of the problem as an excuse for doing nothing. Worse than that however, they appear to be deliberately muddying the water with anecdotes and half arguments to confuse non-fish-experts like me. I therefore agree with comments above about the need for Greenpeace to explain their tactics and what the counter arguments are. Thanks Greenpeace!

disgraceful...I am so disgusted

...Hope Princes gets the same treatment as Kit Kat did...it's coming

Some interesting and thoughtful comments on the lucid response to Princes email. Whilst it probably hasn't done them any good, the Ghanean fishermen's straightforward responses (in one of the Hugh's Fish Fight programmes) to your questions were a refreshing contrast to the misleading, ambiguous, cunning (etc) output from the likes of Princes.

Spudlz is a friendly person who cares about tuna and sharks and turtles and dolphins.

Haven't eaten tuna in years. Am resolved now to not consume any oceanic species. The seas are kn*ckered, probably beyond recall, as is wildlife in general, (sorry, now off topic) where increasingly, well-meaning organisations are operating reintroduction programmes to "restore" species to their former ranges, thus chronically devaluing true wildlife to the level of nature as a man-made theme park. With human populations at current levels and rising, what chance the real wild world, never mind just the oceans?

The problem is really not that complex though is it? In short: too many people wanting to eat too much fish. Of course, there are damaging fishing techniques and by-catch doesn't help things, but when more and more of the ever-growing human population think it's their god-given right to eat fish more and more often, and even feed their cats tuna cat food, etc, then the Earth's oceans are going to have problems meeting this demand. The answer, sadly, is not to change your tuna brand but to eat less fish, educate people to make them aware that the ocean's fish stocks are not a limitless resource and yes, ultimately, to get a grip on the booming human population. Which does kind of make all this harranging at Prince's ultimately a bit of a drop in the ocean.

Joe boy, the problem may not be complex, but the solution is. How do we change the way people think about their 'god given right'. While I agree with your points, as would most people on a Greenpeace website, it does little to change the way the rest of the population thinks. There is no easy way to stop over-population, as there is no easy way to limit choice of diet. I would be delighted if someone could explain to me how to influence 7bn people. That frustratingly is the real challenge.

Indeed, so if this is the real challenge, are these smaller campaigns worth fighting? Even if we win a symbolic victory over Princes, we'll still be fishing tuna unsustainably due to the sheer volume of catch, and it will be wiped out as a viable species by about, ooh, 2050 (if we're being optimistic). It may not be 'easy' but the challenges of unsustainable human population growth and human behaviour/development underpin pretty much every other problem. No disresepect to Greenpeace and not to give any support to companies such as Princes, who clearly have zero interest in preserving the natural world from which they derive their profits.

The Earth is shot. Any "solution" has to be political. I'm an admirer and supporter of Greenpeace and direct action but it doesn't even scratch the surface. Close right-minded associates of mine won't ultimately make a tiny fraction of the sacrifices that every human needs to in order to make any tangible difference, so no chance. Lots of us make gestures, back Greenpeace et al but achieve nothing in real terms barring the salving of our consciences. Princes may get a bloody nose out of this and I'll be delighted but so what? What/who next? there's a rather large queue forming, or rather formed, probably starting around the agricultural revolution, or more likely when mankind first evolved...

I think people are likely to change their practices based on a change of awareness. Such as is the case recently with regards to finning - lots of media exposure in the UK in the form of newspaper / online articles and Gordon Ramsay's 'Shark Bait' (media personalities have the power to surely make the most change of all?). The impact on China is most likely tiny, where suspicion of external interests does abound. However change, however slowly, is change and I do think people when made aware of an issue and are able to make a connection between their actions and the consequences, generally would like to do the right thing. Two issues here, (a) they need to know HOW to make these differences, and (b) they truly need to make them with little self-sacrifice! The latter is blatantly apparent when looking at issues of global warming and carbon offsetting. No-one I know does this. My sister produces about 20 tons a year in flights around the world, yet when I've told her about www.coolearth.org and other ways to invest in planetary preservation to offset negative implications, she's not too peturbed and has done nothing to compensate. My fear is human's are inherent selfish. To really make changes we need to both be aware and make sacrifices: financially, dietary... generally with regards to our lifestyles AND ACT.

Very useful rebuttal, I will use that to respond if Princes get back to me! One commenter made the very good point that it isn't just people who eat tuna; we feed it to our cats. As a vegetarian who loves cats and is hoping to get one in the not too distant future, it would be very good to know which cat foods are sourcing responsibly; is there any data on this which Greenpeace can share? Or perhaps we should just avoid any foods with tuna in the ingredients - but what about other fish varieties? I would bet that cat food is not subject to the same marketing PR as fish for human consumption, and indeed, that a lot of that bycatch forms the principle ingredient of many fish based animal foods - I mean what else are they going to do with it, besides turning it into fertiliser? Consumption is a minefield of ignorance even for those with the best of intentions, and it is very hard to stay on top of what's right without becoming a full-time researcher of the truth. Thank you to the efforts of Greenpeace and similar campaigners who take up this hard work for us - and for the planet!

I have to support any suggestion that we should place a total ban on tuna fishing by all methods until full scientific studies have indicated that stocks have recovered and a truly sustainable fishing method have been devised. Even the pole and line fishing method has by catch problems and we need to be sure that this has been eliminated not simply minimised.

Sorry Mark P. - what is/was the kit kat issue ?

message is far too long, lost interest half the way !

Fish quota is interlinked with salary Management
of the company, they will not give a penny of that
to which fish whatever !

Has anyone heard about this????

People in Costa Rica are collecting SEA TURLE eggs to sell them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is cruelty at its best and the how to exterminate one of the gentlest creatures around....

Yes true, just search 'Costa Rica sea turtle extinction-not global warming' and the photos are there.  Some are saying this is a legitimate harvest but Costa Rica also allows Shark Finning, it may be legal, but it is wrong.
The Sea Sheperd have proved the Costa Rican Government is corrupt and
most of their “legal” harvests end up in the Asian market sold for
profit.  Disgraceful.

Read the story again, it makes me feel so helpless. I think we cannot do anything about the problem, you see it has to resolve itself. Or no new tuna babies, or so much that the taste will
disappeare. (kind of gally taste would be nice)
I myself have never eaten tuna fish.

gally= biliousness (sorry)

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